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Post by IsaacEbrom (EIR Staff) on Jan 15, 2009 19:33:55 GMT -5
Two Heads up Classes for 2009 Edinburg International Racetrack is proud to announce the addition of Pro Comp (5.50 index) and Pro Gas (6.50 index) to the 2009 racing season. Both categories will compete once a month for cash and prizes. A points program will also crown a champion of each class at the end of the season. Pro Comp is essentially replacing the Pro Street class that has been contested the past three years. The biggest change racers should notice is the number of rules has been reduced. Drivers will now be allowed to run any type of Power Adder combination as well as their choice of hood scoops. “These adjustments will let more racers participate plus produce better side-by-side racing for the spectators,” said track manager Julio Cantu. “It’s one of those win-win situations…everyone including the driver, track, and race fan benefit.” Pro Gas will utilize the same rules as Pro Comp minus the 5.50 index. Instead of the 5.50 time, vehicles will race off of a 6.50 index. If both vehicles run faster than the posted index then the driver breaking out the least would win. Listed below are the rules for Pro Comp and Pro Gas as well as the payout: 1. Door Cars Only 2. Any Combinations Allowed at Any Weight 3. No Timed Throttle Stops on Vehicle 4. No Delay Boxes Allowed in Vehicle 5. No Deep Staging 6. .400 Pro Tree 7. Eliminations are All Run and Drivers are paired by Cards 8. Two Time Runs (Drivers must alternate lanes) 9. Courtesy Staging in Effect (Auto Start ON) 10. Maximum 20 minutes of “cool down” time Pro Comp 5.50 index--All Run
WINNER $750.00 Runner up $300.00 Semis $75.00
Car & Driver $75 based on 16 entries Pro Gas 6.50 index--All Run WINNER $500.00 Runner up $200.00 Semis $50.00
Car & Driver $50 based on 16 entries
Lastly, drivers wishing to enter both classes may do so but must use different vehicles--One car per class! Thanks...Isaac Ebrom Edinburg International Racetrack
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Post by mzellers on Feb 2, 2009 12:30:07 GMT -5
Just curious.........Why was the decision made to make the cut a 5.50 for the quick class on Friday nights? I like racing that class but will not be able to now because my car runs 5.70's. That decision will sure cut quite a few people out.
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Post by IsaacEbrom (EIR Staff) on Feb 2, 2009 19:49:10 GMT -5
Michael,
Only two drivers would have to make major changes to race the Friday Night before the Bracket Bash. Those two drivers are Mike Garcia and Mario Cantu, who would have to speed up their vehicle about 3 tenths of a second to race in Quick, Pro-Comp, or Pro-Gas. We are NOT “cutting quite a few people out,” since everyone could fit in Quick, Pro-Comp, or Pro-Gas.
We are trying to build the Pro-Comp and Pro-Gas classes, thus a 5.50 cut in Quick was needed. We are also working on a Top Sportsman/Top Dragster National Open event with NHRA and the bump for that event would be a 5.19 for doorcars.
A drivers like yourself could speed up (major change) their car to run Quick/Pro-Comp or slow down their car (minor change) and run Pro-Gas.
Everyone has a class to compete in—the choice is up to the driver.
Thanks…Isaac
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Post by Batman on Feb 2, 2009 23:14:27 GMT -5
Does this mean that roadsters and dragsters or anything that does not have a door can only race at the bracket bash on Saturday?
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Post by mzellers on Feb 2, 2009 23:19:51 GMT -5
I understand that you want to build up the two heads up classes and I would not mind running one of those classes but since one of the rules is that you can not have a delay box in the vehicle, I doubt that guys in electronics will be willing to pull the boxes out. It makes sense for NHRA to have a cut off at 5.19. They get 5 times as many cars as we do at most events. We should look for ways to allow more racers to race in more classes or we will lose racers in the down sliding economy. Myself and Ed Galbraith run about the same E.T, so we would be two other cars left out for Fridays.
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Post by Batman on Feb 3, 2009 0:17:23 GMT -5
It seems the carrot in front of the mule pulling the trailer is limited now for anything that does not have a door. Or anybody that does not fit the et. Is it obomanation? I will stay home and wait for a check.
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Post by IsaacEbrom (EIR Staff) on Feb 3, 2009 14:02:54 GMT -5
As I said early, Everyone has a class to compete in—the choice is up to the driver.
Quick/Pro-Comp/Pro-Gas Series Quick: 5.50 and quicker (Bracket) Pro-Comp: 5.50 index (Heads up) NO delay box or throttle stop in Heads-up Pro-Gas: 6.50 index (Heads up)
Race 1: Friday Night March 20th Race 2: Friday Night April 17th Race 3: Friday Night May 22nd Race 4: Friday Night June 26th Race 5: Friday Night July 24th Race 6: Friday Night August 14th Race 7: Friday Night September 11th Race 8: Friday Night December 11th
The Quick class is open to any car, truck, bike, dragster, roadster, altered, etc. The only requirement for Quick is the vehicle has to be dialed-in at 5.50 or faster.
The Pro-Comp and Pro-Gas classes are limited to doorcars/trucks only. The remaining rules for these two classes are listed above.
A driver has plenty of time to remove then reinstall their delay box from Friday Night to a Saturday Bracket Bash. If a driver does not want to remove their delay box to race in Pro-Comp or Pro-Gas, that is their choice.
Thanks…Isaac
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Post by mzellers on Feb 3, 2009 17:16:37 GMT -5
I think that you are going to find very few racers pulling their delay boxes out and it makes no sense that one would need to do so. How is a delay box going to help you in a heads up class that is racing on a 4 tenths Pro tree? You can't even use the delay box under those circumstances. Sounds like a bunch of work for a rule that doesn't make any sense or have any purpose.
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Post by tweetyvette on Feb 4, 2009 17:17:28 GMT -5
Mike, On the one hand I can agree with and see were your coming from on this. I also talked to Isaac about how taking the delay box out didn't make sense. In fact I wanted to leave the throttle stop under the carb and just take off the solenoids. The bottomline is that these two classes are index classes that the track is trying to build on and trying to get more of the Friday night guys to enter. The vast majorrity of these guys may have trans brake but don't have or wouldn't want to have a throotle stop or delay box. So like you, I have a couple of choices: 1) Don't run on Friday night or speed the car up to run the car faster then 5.50; 2) Take the box and stop out and run the 6.50 class on Friday night and put the delay back in for Saturday brackets; 3) Don't change a thing and just run the two bracket races on Saturday. Last year there was one bracket race on Friday night and one on Saturday. Now with both on the same day you won't have to deal with Friday night street racers or go out both days---if thats what you choose to do. I took the 2nd option. I have taken out all of the electronics and put them on quick dis-connect fasteners and wire looms. I've slowed the car down by using a series of washers. I've got the car running pretty consistent low 6.50's. For Saturday racing it should take me about 10 to 15 minutes to go back to bracket set-up.
After trying this out I actually like it because it gives you two different racing venues and 2 different set-ups. You get to do some mechanical engineering which is neat.
What the track is trying to do is build more classes---not keep everything the same and I understand and support that. Its up to us as racers if we want to change our cars or just leave them the same and run 2 races on Saturday, which is the same as last year---2 races on a weekend.
Paul Ebrom
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Post by mzellers on Feb 5, 2009 12:39:04 GMT -5
I understand what a driver can do to race the headup class. I would not want to be making changes to my car, back and forth and risk it running inconsistant on Saturday. I am upset at the fact that the time bracket for quick has changed. I spent over $30,000.00 last year to get a faster car just because I wanted to run the quick class too. So I got to run it for 1/2 a year, now the rules are changed where I am on the outside looking in again. If you want to make other classes (heads up) that is fine, but it shouldn't be at the expense of another class (quick). I guess I will just race on Saturdays.
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Post by mzellers on Feb 8, 2009 15:53:37 GMT -5
I looked in the NHRA rule book and I don't see a pro-gas or pro-comp class. There is a super gas and super comp class but the rules are different from the ones being used.
Super Comp is a 8.90 heads up class (5.70 1/8 mile). It is open to door cars and open body cars
Super Gas is a 9.90 heads up class (6.30 1/8 mile). It is open to door cars only.
Both classes are silent to any mention of delay boxes.
FYI
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Post by IsaacEbrom (EIR Staff) on Feb 9, 2009 19:57:41 GMT -5
Michael,
If we left the Quick class unchanged from last year, there is a very good chance you will not qualify this year. You NEVER qualified in the top half of the field last year and would usually sneak in somewhere near the bottom of the field (10, 11, 12). Last year, only 12 cars could qualify (Dirty Dozen); this year the Quick class is All Run as long as the vehicle runs faster than 5.50. Listed below are drivers faster than you:
1. Michael Pennington 2. Preston Pennington 3. Anthony Rios 4. Albert Rodriguez 5. Jarod Wilson 6. Armando Garcia 7. Ruben Gomez 8. Tony Rosillo
The only driver you finished ahead in points from the list above is Tony Rosillo. That means these racers will make every race this year. So, if we still had the set-up as last year (Dirty Dozen) only 4 more cars have a good chance to qualify. Listed below are drivers faster than you:
9. Hector Garza 10. Joe Hinojosa 11. Ruben Salinas 12. Roy Perez 13. Keith Barrett 14. Scott Ball 15. Raymond Hall 16. Oscar Rios
If just half these drivers showed up—you would not qualify! Drivers like Hector Garza, Joe Hinojosa, and Raymond Hall did not compete in the Dirty Dozen because they did not want to run two classes in one day. Now Quick is the only class on Friday Night for them. Drivers like Ruben Salinas, Scott Ball, and Roy Perez did not have their cars ready until late in the season. Both Keith Barrett and Oscar Rios made at least one Dirty Dozen race. Listed below are drivers faster than you:
17. Philip Pennington 18. Austin Cowan 19. Ron Matheny 20. Alvaro Pena 21. Franklin Dodd 22. Shaun Neidig 23. Luis Vela 24. Todd Zampese/David Bills
All of these drivers made at least 1 of the 6 Dirty Dozen races last year. The only drivers that did not are Todd Zampese/David Bills. They are listed because Scott Ball will usually travel down with one of them. I could easily see Philip Pennington racing in Quick now since it is All Run. Last year, driver would be paired on a ladder thus he would not enter since his other two brother were already in. This year, Quick will be paired by cards (just like Super Pro).
Thanks…Isaac
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Post by mzellers on Feb 10, 2009 7:50:23 GMT -5
Wow. Sounds like you are trying to discourage me from even showing up on Fridays. I only got to race 2 of the 6 dirty dozen races last year because I was getting my new car together. In those two races, I made it to the finals one race and the semi's the other race. Do what you want Isaac. Like I said before, I will just race on Saturdays. If I want to race more, I will go to another track.
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Post by Batman on Feb 11, 2009 21:19:49 GMT -5
HEY GUYS, I HATE TO BREAK UP YOUR PARTY ;D ITS STARTING TO SOUND GOOD, BUT I THINK ITS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS TO HAPPEN AT EIR IN ALONG TIME. ISAAC, ARE THERE GOING TO BE TEST AND TUNE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SATURDAY RACERS ON FRIDAY NIGHT? WILL THERE BE BUY BACKS ON THE FRIDAY NIGHT DEAL? ANY OR ALL CLASSES? - - HEY MIKE, SPRAY IT AND COME ON OUT AND PLAY, i WANT TO GET SOME OF THAT 'VETTE ANYWAY ;D ;D
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Post by mzellers on Feb 12, 2009 12:40:17 GMT -5
Sorry Batman, no spraying on the motors I build, but if you want some, I'll be there on Saturdays. ;D
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